THIS BLOG IS DEDICATED TO THE UNDERRATED GEM PREDATOR 2 AND ALL ITS FANS.

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ENJOY.







Tuesday, 16 May 2017

/_\ KEVIN PETER HALL









Kevin was the best predator actor in the suit, the sequels and garbages spin off such as AVP, AVPR, and Predators proved it.Ian Whyte really tried, but ultimately he didn't manage to be as perfect as KPH.Kevin was top billed actor in Predator 2.
This said, if Shane Black and Fred Dekker co-written script is used to direct the next Predator movie, Ian Whyte is the best available choice.With the right old fashioned costume, cgi free, and  if they respect the fans, that'll do.






/_\ TRIVIA AND EASTER EGGS


AN ONGOING ARTICLE ABOUT THE STUFFS YOU MAY HAVE MISSED IN THE MOVIE OR RELATED TO IT.





BLINK AND YOU LL MISS THE ELLEN DUNNING CAMEO






A RECENT EASTER EGG WAS FOUND 9/6/2019 A MESSAGE HIDDEN IN THE SPARKS
Credit to Schizofenik







I HAVE CHECKED THE LD AND YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT BUT IT IS THERE





/_\
Sandy Collora was a concept artist and sculptor who worked at Stan Winston's effects studio during the time Predator 2 was in production. He also directed the Batman fan-film Batman: Dead End, which featured both the Alien and the Predator

 He wishes to release an artbook  based on all his work for Predator 2,"The Lost Art of Predator 2" but  the ball is in the hands of FOX now.
Here are a few sketches that he posted.










Harrigan's extensive background can be spotted on the small computer screen, and if you listen to the computer's voice.

"Destruction of 11 patrol cars, 1 city bus, and 1city sweeper..."







Danny Boys girlfriend picture is glued to the computer.The girl on the picture is Lisa Lebenzon, Ruben Blades's gf at the time.





OWLF  Government  Team logo closer look.




During the subway massacre, the predator is showed crawling like when he was above the train and not cloacked while he is
in fact walking and cloacked.Strange editing or maybe they wanted the scene to be less confusing and show the pred progressing.







Random guy at a window when Harrigan is sliding.




People who grew up with John Woo's action masterpieces maybe noticed that in some scenes the track composed by Silvestri for the King Willie scene, was used (stolen?), in the fucking great movie Hard Boiled.




THE AUSTRALIAN CINEMA POSTER



This rare bird has one particularity, this is the only theatre poster wich displays  the head
not cropped.You can find a lot of posters with the full body but there aren't from cinemas.
You can find some aussie posters like this one but there are only 13 x 30 inches so beware.
This one on the picture is a 23 x 45 inches.



 THE MIDGET


On one slide  one can notice a 
small person,during the filming of the cemetary scene, the one with the kid Brian.The dummy is dressed differently and has red hair, maybe it was used by Joel Hynek for FX purpose?
Thanks to Predian




HARRIGAN VS KEYES



Gary Busey was heavily injured, near death, during an accident before the filming of Predator2, but he asked to D.Glover to not hold his strenght when he pushed him against the pillar so the scene would be more credible.They had to do several takes.



THE MULTIPLE OWNAGES OF TONY POPE



There is a recurring joke with Toy Pope, he, or his van,  are getting owned by different characters and even by the predator throughout the movie.



First Harrigan crushes his van with his car,





Then Harrigan uses Pope's van to rip the door



Jerry owns Pope near the Penthouse,




Garber owns Pope




The predator smashes a monitor during the massacre, displaying Pope.





Pope's van roof is smashed  by the predator
when it leaps.





Harrigan knocks Pope out


Pilgrim owns Pope during the burial (deleted scene)







BRIAN SIMPSON THE OTHER STUNTMAN


Brian Simpson is a veteran stuntman, he was a body double of Kevin Peter Hall in both Predator movies, he also worked on the creature FX team.
during the original movie.






I don't know which scenes of the movie he worked on, but I guess he was in the suit during the jumps, when Harrigan sent a grenade toward the predator in the slaughterhouse.Or when the predator is pushed on the roof.Waiting for Brian to reply to me

CONCEPT ART


 
 
 
WOLFEN (1981) A MOVIE THAT INSPIRED PREDATOR AND PREDATOR 2
11th December 2019 .

Wolfen is a great movie,but besides that It had most likely inspired our two real pred movies 
in  some ways.Here's a list of details :

-Wolfen is set in cold NY , the place where P2 was supposed to be originally. 

-The main character is a cop investigating grisly murders , his look ressembles
a mix between Billy in civil and military outfit.Headband, hairdo.

-The creature has its own POV fashion,with the "swoosh" and heartbeat sounds.

-During interrogation scenes, when the investigators were analyzing the suspects being interviewed, the video was like the Predator heat vision itself.

- the severed hand still moving and holding a gun (like Dillon)

- the cop's decapitated head's mouth still moving (kind of like King Willie's head screaming after it was severed).
- Edward James Olmos was like King Willie in that the the cop (Finney) had to go to him for      information about who's doing all the killing.Olmos character was talking about supernatural things and really left an impression.

- Finney gets spooked by birds while in the run-down building.

-The movie's cinematography focuses a lot on the height, rooftops, high bridge, buildings etc.

- Gregory Hines when analyzing the hair samples from the crime scene says "it isn't human" (kind of like the old woman pathologist in P2 saying the Pred's dart doesn't match anything in the periodic table).

- And of course, old Cain actually says "Predator".
Thanks to Keith for the head up. 

Vids there :


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7pubsv


https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7pubve

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7pubw8

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7puby2

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7pubzz


MARIA CONCHITA ALONSO TALKS ABOUT PREDATOR 2 




STORYBOARD PAGES
Thanks to Predian and Voodoo Magic


















 
 
 
BOX OFFICE 
 
Budget $35,000,000
Domestic (53.7%)
$30,669,413
International (46.3%)
$26,450,905
Worldwide
$57,120,318

Domestic
Market    Release Date    Opening    Gross
Domestic    Nov 21, 1990    $8,784,943    $30,669,413
Europe, Middle East, and Africa
Market    Release Date    Opening    Gross
Austria    May 31, 1991    –     $85,901
Belgium    May 1, 1991    –     $111,183
Bulgaria    Nov 30, 1992    –     $34,568
Czech Republic/Slovakia    Apr 16, 1992    –     $30,454
Denmark    Apr 1, 1991    –     $96,604
Finland    Feb 15, 1991    –     $155,851
France    Apr 30, 1991    –     $2,871,157
Germany    May 30, 1991    –     $1,884,592
Hungary    Aug 2, 1991    –     $56,064
Israel    May 10, 1991    –     $26,032
Italy    Apr 25, 1991    –     $519,542
Netherlands    May 31, 1991    –     $164,682
Portugal    Apr 19, 1991    –     $86,739
Romania    Nov 19, 1993    –     $71,915
S/E/W Africa    Feb 15, 1991    –     $207,771
Spain    Jul 5, 1991    –     $2,037,263
Sweden    Apr 26, 1991    –     $316,210
Switzerland    May 8, 1991    –     $224,069
Turkey    Jul 1, 1991    –     $58,600
United Kingdom    May 3, 1991    –     $3,557,209
Latin America
Market    Release Date    Opening    Gross
Argentina    Dec 20, 1990    –     $168,666
Bolivia    Jan 31, 1991    –     $19,527
Brazil    Feb 11, 1991    –     $1,665,272
Central America    Dec 28, 1990    –     $216,648
Chile    Jan 11, 1991    –     $84,434
Colombia    Jan 31, 1991    –     $226,136
Ecuador    Dec 25, 1990    –     $62,816
Jamaica    Jan 23, 1991    –     $46,631
Mexico    Mar 1, 1991    –     $1,047,587
Peru    Feb 14, 1991    –     $112,468
Puerto Rico    Jan 17, 1991    –     $351,847
Uruguay    May 16, 1991    –     $19,725
Venezuela    Feb 6, 1991    –     $158,916
Asia Pacific
Market    Release Date    Opening    Gross
Australia    Jan 10, 1991    –     $1,775,332
Hong Kong    Dec 21, 1990    –     $891,006
India    Mar 18, 1994    –     $178,017
Indonesia    Feb 13, 1992    –     $326,300
Japan    Jan 25, 1991    –     $4,069,704
Malaysia    Feb 7, 1991    –     $295,089
New Zealand    Apr 19, 1991    –     $163,964
Philippines    Feb 6, 1991    –     $175,333
Russia/CIS/Ukraine    Jan 4, 1994    –     $134,109
Singapore    Feb 7, 1991    –     $284,264
South Korea    Dec 22, 1990    –     $563,592
Taiwan    Apr 27, 1991    –     $513,171
Thailand    Dec 29, 1990    –     $303,945 
 
1ST DRAFT/MOVIE COMPARISON
Thanks to Predian
 
"Most of the characters, names and dialogue is the same though Jerry is named Tony and doesn't have any jokes.
The opening scene is with the Scorpian who is doing a deal for weapons when the Predator drops in. Harrigan's team arrive and enter the building (none of the opening firefight with the police in the streets).
The next different scene is in a warehouse rather than a penthouse apartment and there is no girl, here the guy is tied up by his wrists and is the shocked survivor found by Harrigan's team.
Danny dies the same but finds a Saint Christopher instead of the dart and the forensic scientist (a man) finds traces of a metallic oil on the victims which helps the Predator's blades cut stronger.
Harrigan is suspended after Danny's death and Tony (Jerry) and Leona continue to follow his orders.
The Predator also does a bit of walking, firstly through a park where he pick up the "give me some candy" line from a whining child. Harrigan and the others are driving while the Predator keeps up by running alongside. He follows Harrigan around the streets and goes into the taxidermy store to admire a stuffed lion.
King Willy dies firing and Uzi and his dreads are left on his skull. The trophy cabinet is a diamond of jelly which they are placed into leaving a space at the top for one more.
Leona also dies at the blades of the Predator on the subway, no mention of being pregnant as she is celebrating her 35 birthday with her husband and already has two children.
Peter Keyes lead the OWLF unit but doesn't enter the meat packing building, he watches on the screens and has all of Garber's lines. Dutch and Anna both gave one line on the screens. Their events were in 1984, this movie is set in 1994.
The Predator flees from the slaughterhouse with Harrigan pursuing across rooftops, firstly climbing the next building's extra five floors by the crumbling fire-escape. Then when the Predator jumps a forty foot gap to the next building Harrigan has to use a piece of cable to slide down two heavy duty power cables to catch up.
The old woman was to be played by Billy Crystal. Harrigan has to run down the stairs when the Predator escapes down the lift shaft, the fight agin in the basement and through a fake wall where the brickwork is a Predator hologram. Then through to an abandoned tunnel where they fight to the predator's death outside the spaceship and the clan appears and gives him a 1640 flintlock. He walks out of the lobby to reporters and police and walks round to find keyes standing by the newly exposed tunnel exit to say "we came so close".
 
 
 
Thomases video about their draft for
a predator movie set during WW2, a terrific
idea , a reminder :

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?v=282510422240673&ref=watch_permalink